Q3 2024 · NSE · Nov 9, 2024

PAYTM Is Paytm's First Profitable Quarter Actually Real?

One97 Communications reported its first-ever quarterly profit - Rs. 930 crore - in Q2 FY2025, but Rs. 1,345 crore of it came from selling the Entertainment ticketing business to Zomato, not from operations. Strip that out and the underlying business improved too: EBITDA before ESOP cost narrowed to Rs. (186) crore from Rs. (545) crore, aided by NPCI's approval for Paytm to operate UPI directly as a Third-Party Application Provider across four partner banks. The stock rallied 71% over the quarter on the combination.

A Real Profit, Wearing a One-Time Gain

One97 Communications reported Profit After Tax of Rs. 930 crore for the quarter ended September 30, 2024 (Q2 FY2025) - its first profitable quarter since listing. The headline number is almost entirely a one-time event: on August 27, 2024, Paytm completed the sale of its Entertainment (movie ticketing and events) business to Zomato Limited for Rs. 2,013.6 crore after working-capital adjustments, booking a Rs. 1,345.4 crore exceptional gain, net of Rs. 16.9 crore of transaction costs. Back that gain out and the quarter's actual operating loss before tax was closer to Rs. 410.8 crore - still a loss, just a much smaller one than the Rs. 837.3 crore lost the quarter before.

That underlying improvement is real and worth separating from the accounting gain, because two structural things actually changed this quarter. First, NPCI approved One97 Communications to participate in UPI directly as a Third-Party Application Provider ("TPAP") under a multi-bank model - the resolution to the "which bank replaces PPBL" question this blog's Q1 FY2025 coverage flagged as still pending. Paytm completed migrating 13.5 crore UPI customers to its own TPAP app in partnership with SBI, HDFC Bank, Axis Bank, and Yes Bank during the quarter. Second, EBITDA before ESOP cost - the metric management has been asking investors to track since this blog's 2021 coverage first flagged how much weight that framing carries - improved by Rs. 359 crore QoQ to Rs. (186) crore, on an 11% QoQ revenue recovery, an 18% jump in Contribution Profit, and indirect expenses falling 17% QoQ. Both stories are true at once: the quarter's headline profit is a one-time divestment gain, and the quarter's underlying loss genuinely narrowed for reasons that should persist.

The Prescription

Paytm should keep doing exactly what this quarter demonstrates: prune non-core lines for cash (Entertainment ticketing was never going to be bottom-line accretive at Paytm's scale, and CEO Vijay Shekhar Sharma said as much last quarter) and redeploy the proceeds and management attention toward the payments-plus-financial-services core now that the TPAP migration has actually landed. The Rs. 2,013.6 crore in cash from the Zomato sale, on top of an already de-levered balance sheet, gives Paytm real optionality it didn't have a year ago - and unlike the IPO proceeds that sat mostly undeployed for years (see Beyond the Usual below), this is fresh capital arriving at a moment the company has an actual plan for it.

What Paytm should stop doing is layering credit risk onto a business it has spent three years insisting is a pure fee-based distribution model. This quarter introduced Default Loss Guarantee ("DLG") arrangements with one lending partner, where Paytm itself now guarantees losses on a merchant-loan portfolio up to Rs. 225 crore - a genuine shift from collecting a sourcing fee to underwriting downside risk on loans it doesn't hold on its own balance sheet (see Beyond the Usual below). CFO Madhur Deora framed this as "emerging market practice" and said the net take rate stays "north of 5%" even after the DLG cost - but a fee-based lending-distribution business and a credit-risk-bearing one carry very different risk profiles, and Paytm should be transparent that it is now the latter for at least this one partner, rather than describing DLG as a cost line that simply nets out of an unchanged take rate.

Key Financial Metrics

Q2 FY2025 (quarter ended September 30, 2024) vs. Q2 FY2024 (quarter ended September 30, 2023) and Q1 FY2025 (quarter ended June 30, 2024), consolidated, unaudited

FX: Rs. 83.83 = $1 (September 30, 2024 month-end).

Metric Q2 FY25 (Rs. Cr) Q2 FY25 (USD) Q2 FY24 (Rs. Cr) YoY Q1 FY25 (Rs. Cr) QoQ
Revenue from Operations 1,660 ~$198.0M 2,519 ⚠️ -34% 1,502 ✅ +11%
Contribution Profit 894 ~$106.6M 1,426 ⚠️ -37% 755 ✅ +18%
EBITDA before ESOP cost (loss) (186) ~-$22.2M 153 ⚠️ Swung to a loss (545) ✅ Loss narrowed 66%
Operating Income (loss)¹ (411) ~-$49.0M (274) ⚠️ Loss widened 50% (837) ✅ Loss narrowed 51%
Net Income (PAT)² 930 ~$111.0M (292) ✅ Swung to a profit (840) ✅ Swung to a profit
Cash & investable balances (excl. Paytm Money customer funds, as at period-end) 9,999 ~$1,192.7M n/a³ 8,108 ✅ +23%

¹ "Operating Income (loss)" is the consolidated P&L's "Loss before share of profit/(loss) of associates/joint ventures, exceptional items and tax" - the closest line to an operating result, before the one-time Zomato-sale gain. ² Includes the Rs. 1,345.4 crore exceptional gain on the Entertainment-business sale; excluding it, the quarter's actual profit/(loss) before tax was Rs. (410.8) crore rather than the Rs. 938.9 crore reported. ³ The company's own "cash and investable balance excluding Paytm Money customer funds" comparable figure for September 2023 wasn't independently re-verified for this post.

This is the first quarter this blog's Paytm coverage has been able to report a genuinely full set of consolidated financial statements - a balance sheet and a half-year cash flow statement, not just the P&L a SEBI Regulation 33 filing usually carries. Net cash outflow from operating activities was Rs. (389.9) crore for the six months ended September 30, 2024 (down from Rs. 766.6 crore of inflow in the same period a year earlier - a genuine deterioration on a cash basis, even as the accounting loss narrowed), while investing activities show Rs. 2,000.6 crore of proceeds from the Zomato sale largely redeployed into mutual funds and commercial paper (net current-investment purchases grew to a Rs. 1,121.7 crore outflow this half-year, from Rs. 620.6 crore a year earlier) rather than sitting as pure cash. Total assets grew to Rs. 18,204.7 crore from Rs. 17,139.1 crore at March 31, 2024, funded almost entirely by the sale proceeds and fair-value gains on investments, not operating cash generation.

Key Operational Metrics

Metric Q2 FY25 Q2 FY24 YoY
GMV Rs. 4.47 lakh Cr Rs. 4.50 lakh Cr ⚠️ -1%
GMV - continued business (ex-disrupted products)* Rs. 4.47 lakh Cr Rs. 3.81 lakh Cr ✅ +17%
Monthly Transacting Users (MTU, average) 7.1 Cr 9.5 Cr ⚠️ -25%
Registered Merchants (end of period) 4.2 Cr 3.8 Cr ✅ +12%
Payment Devices deployed (cumulative) 112 lakh 92 lakh ✅ +21%
Value of personal & merchant loans distributed Rs. 5,280 Cr Rs. 7,202 Cr ⚠️ -27%
Average number of Sales Employees 30,104 35,349 ⚠️ -15%

*"Continued business" excludes wallet, Postpaid, and other products discontinued after the PPBL restriction.

MTU fell further this quarter (7.1 crore average, 6.8 crore by September specifically) - not because the underlying franchise shrank, but because the TPAP migration itself caused "natural churn" among the 13.5 crore migrated UPI customers, per the company's own disclosure, while new UPI customer onboarding remains paused pending NPCI approval. The gap between headline GMV (-1% YoY) and continued-business GMV (+17% YoY) has narrowed from last quarter's 32-point spread to 18 points, reflecting that the disrupted-product base a year ago is becoming less relevant to the comparison as more quarters pass since the January 2024 restriction.

Payments & Financial Services

The larger reported line (Rs. 1,322 crore, 78.9% of revenue, down 36% YoY, up 13% QoQ). This quarter's release stopped splitting Payment Services into separate "Consumers" and "Merchants" sub-lines - the granularity this blog's Q1 FY2025 coverage used to isolate exactly which side of the business the PPBL restriction hit hardest. Payment Services is now reported as one combined figure (Rs. 946 crore, up 7% QoQ), and Financial Services and Others grew 34% QoQ to Rs. 376 crore, driven by "higher collection bonus in merchant loans due to better asset quality trends" and a growing share of higher-take-rate merchant loans within the mix - the first sign the lending business is stabilizing rather than continuing to contract, even as the year-on-year comparison still shows a 34% decline against a pre-restriction base.

Net payment margin rose 21% QoQ to Rs. 465 crore on GMV of Rs. 4.5 lakh crore, with payment processing margin improving from better device monetization and payment-gateway cost control - management was explicit this was margin improvement, not simply volume recovery. No UPI incentive was booked this quarter either (it's recognized in Q4 of the fiscal year), so the full-year processing margin will run meaningfully higher than any single quarter's disclosed figure once that incentive lands.

Marketing Services

Rs. 302 crore, 18.1% of revenue, down 29% YoY, down 6% QoQ. Excluding the divested Entertainment business (included only through the August 27, 2024 sale-completion date), Marketing Services revenue was Rs. 268 crore for the quarter - the comparable figure for judging the ongoing business's trajectory. Credit-card distribution kept scaling (13.8 lakh activated cards, up from 8.7 lakh a year ago) even as issuers stayed cautious industry-wide, consistent with last quarter's read on this sub-line.

Segment Comparison

Segment Revenue (Q2 FY25) Revenue (Q2 FY24) YoY Share of Total
Payments & Financial Services Rs. 1,322 Cr Rs. 2,071 Cr ⚠️ -36% 78.9%
Marketing Services Rs. 302 Cr Rs. 423 Cr ⚠️ -29% 18.0%
Other Operating Revenue Rs. 36 Cr Rs. 24 Cr ✅ +47% 2.1%
Total Revenue from Operations Rs. 1,660 Cr Rs. 2,519 Cr -34% 100%

Both major segments are still down meaningfully year-on-year against the pre-restriction base, but both grew quarter-on-quarter for the first time since the RBI action - the first quarter in this blog's coverage where the sequential trend across both lines points the same direction (up), rather than one segment absorbing the disruption while the other holds flat. As with every prior Paytm quarter this blog has covered, this remains investor-relations disclosure rather than an audited segment breakdown; the notes confirm the company still reports as a single segment under Ind AS 108.

Beyond the Usual

Paytm now guarantees credit losses on a merchant-loan portfolio it doesn't hold

Starting August 2024, Paytm began distributing merchant loans under a Default Loss Guarantee ("DLG") model with one lending partner - the outstanding portfolio under this arrangement stood at Rs. 1,651 crore as of September 30, 2024, and the Board has approved providing DLG of up to Rs. 225 crore over time with this partner. Under the expected-credit-loss accounting model, Paytm expenses the entire DLG cost upfront in the quarter it's given, while the associated collection revenue accrues over the life of the loan - meaning this quarter's results already absorb a real cost for a benefit that pays out gradually. CFO Madhur Deora described this as bringing Paytm's commercial model in line with "emerging market practice," and said the net take rate (after DLG cost) still runs "north of 5%," similar to loans distributed without a guarantee. That's a reasonable economic argument, but it doesn't change what DLG actually is: Paytm, a company that has spent three years telling investors its lending business is pure distribution with loans "underwritten and booked by our lending partners" and no balance-sheet credit exposure, has now taken on real, capped credit risk on at least one portfolio - worth watching whether this expands to more partners, as management said on the call it's open to.

The SEBI Show Cause Notice over the CEO's ESOP grant remains open, two and a half years on

This quarter's notes repeat, essentially unchanged, what last quarter's filing disclosed: the Show Cause Notice SEBI issued regarding the 21,000,000-option grant made to Founder and CEO Vijay Shekhar Sharma in the year ended March 31, 2022 remains unresolved. The company states it "is in discussion with SEBI and is pursuing various options in line with applicable SEBI Regulations," continues to rely on an independent legal opinion that it's compliant, and has made no financial-statement adjustment. Two and a half years after the original grant and roughly a year after this blog's coverage first flagged the underlying Registrar of Companies matter, this remains an open governance item rather than a resolved one - the substance hasn't changed since last quarter, only the passage of time without a stated resolution.

A quiet Rs. 604.7 crore fair-value gain on the PayPay stake, mid-restructuring

The Statement of Other Comprehensive Income shows a Rs. 604.7 crore fair-value gain this half-year on "investments in stock acquisition rights of PayPay Corporation," the 5.4% stake in Japan's PayPay this blog first flagged last quarter as an asset that surfaces only in footnotes, never in headline commentary. This gain alone is larger than the entire quarter's Marketing Services revenue, yet again receives no mention anywhere in the earnings release or call - a passive holding that's becoming a material swing factor in reported comprehensive income without ever being framed as a strategic asset worth its own disclosure.

The IPO-proceeds bucket earmarked for acquisitions sits untouched, even as Paytm exits a business instead

Of the Rs. 8,119.4 crore of net IPO proceeds, Rs. 6,119.4 crore (75%) is now utilized, unchanged in composition from last quarter's post - the entire remaining Rs. 2,000 crore is still earmarked for "investments in new business initiatives, acquisitions and strategic partnerships" and remains fully unspent. This quarter, Paytm's only major strategic-portfolio move was in the opposite direction: selling a business, not acquiring one. Three and a half years after the IPO, the acquisitions bucket has moved from "undeployed" to "the company is currently divesting instead" without ever actually being used for its stated purpose.

What Management Chose to Emphasize on the Call

The call ran almost entirely on the mechanics of the new DLG lending model - nearly every analyst question in the first half of the call was some variant of "how does DLG actually work," and Madhur Deora walked through the same explanation repeatedly: a sourcing fee upfront, a DLG cost upfront (fully expensed in the quarter given), and collection revenue over the loan's life, netting to a take rate he said should stay "north of 5%." Vijay Shekhar Sharma framed the shift as aligning Paytm's commercial model with "industry practice and regulatory best practice" rather than as new risk-taking, and was explicit that the company has no fixed cap or blanket policy - DLG will be offered selectively, "not with every lender," based on portfolio quality and partner preference. On cost discipline, Sharma credited an internally-built AI-driven IVR system with cutting support-function manpower costs 60% in ten months, explicitly inspired by "Klarna's blog post" on AI cost reduction - a specific, verifiable claim about where the quarter's cost improvement actually came from, distinct from the generic "cost optimization" language used in prior quarters.

None of the items in Beyond the Usual above - the DLG credit-risk shift's balance-sheet implications, the still-open SEBI Show Cause Notice, or the PayPay fair-value gain - came up in the call beyond the DLG mechanics discussion itself; the SEBI matter and the PayPay stake specifically were not raised by either management or analysts.

Stock Price Rally Since the TPAP Approval

Monthly closing price, NSE, June 2024 - September 2024

Paytm's stock closed this quarter at Rs. 688.30 on September 30, 2024 - up 71% from the Rs. 401.75 close at the end of last quarter (this blog's Q1 FY2025 post), and up further still from the Rs. 360.75 trough hit in May 2024. The rally tracks closely with the quarter's two structural events: NPCI's TPAP approval (the regulatory unlock that let Paytm resume operating UPI directly) and the Zomato divestment, both landing within the same quarter as the stock's move. Even after this rally, the September 30, 2024 close remains roughly 25% below the Rs. 920.75 high the stock hit in October 2023, before the RBI's PPBL restriction - a partial, not full, recovery of the value the market removed after that action.

Target Valuation Range

EV/Sales-implied enterprise value: approximately Rs. 33,847 crore (~5.1x annualized revenue). Verdict: still too early for a real DCF given the profit's one-time composition, but the market has re-rated Paytm meaningfully on regulatory clarity and cash generation from the Zomato sale - not yet on demonstrated recurring profitability.

A full DCF or reverse DCF still isn't credible: this quarter's Rs. 930 crore profit is 145% larger than the operating loss it's actually built on top of, and there still isn't one full quarter of genuinely recurring, operations-driven profit to anchor a cash-flow model.

Market cap → enterprise value Q2 FY2025 (Sep 2024)
Share price (period-end) Rs. 688.30
Shares outstanding (basic) 637,000,000
Market capitalization Rs. 43,846 crore (~$5.23B)
Less: cash and investable balances (ex. Paytm Money customer funds) Rs. 9,999 crore
Enterprise value Rs. 33,847 crore (~$4.04B)
Peer-multiple sanity check Q1 FY2025 (Jun 2024) Q2 FY2025 (Sep 2024)
Annualized Revenue Rs. 6,008 crore Rs. 6,640 crore
Enterprise value Rs. 17,443 crore (~$2.09B) Rs. 33,847 crore (~$4.04B)
EV/Sales ~2.9x-3.2x ~5.1x

Up from last quarter, but still well below the ~13x multiple this coverage measured shortly after Paytm's 2021 IPO. The market has priced in real regulatory-clarity and balance-sheet-strength gains this quarter; it hasn't yet priced in a belief that Rs. 930 crore of quarterly profit repeats without a divestment behind it.


One97 Communications Limited's earnings release, earnings presentation, unaudited consolidated financial results (balance sheet, income statement, half-year cash flow statement, and notes, reviewed by S.R. Batliboi & Associates LLP) for the quarter and half year ended September 30, 2024, and the transcript of the company's Q2 FY2025 earnings call held October 22, 2024.